Shaft and grips are all original. ins.id = slotId + '-asloaded'; Because its old driver tech? Display as a link instead, please unsderstand that macgregor was more refined than any other manufacturer at the time. The sand ran out of MacGregors hourglass in 2010. I didnt know anything about it, says Millington. Lofts. Most of the clubs I have kept were never in the catalogs he merely copied window.ezoSTPixelAdd(slotId, 'adsensetype', 1); I have to say after a few swings, I was having second thoughts about the new irons. I played the MacGregor MT (1972) "flatsole" irons from 1974 to 1994. Any idea on the iron lofts? Jack Nicklaus, with MacGregor in his bag, went on to win, and win A LOT. I hope they can get a foot hold of some sort in the market. Love to see the stuff. MacGregor has five sets of irons for 2008 for varying player abilities. Wasn't there a standard that was common and it was more of a special order to get away from that? "headline": "MacGregor Irons by Year", The cavity-back clubhead has a multi-material medallion that should dampen vibrations and enhance feel. Your previous content has been restored. I look forward to comparing the old MTs with the new ones if only for nostalgias sake. If you have a super high swing speed, any ball can be a problem. }, Re: I ins.style.display = 'block'; [/quote] The only problem I would see is where could I get fitted for them. MT Pro M #6 (Forged 1025) Year 2008; Brand MacGregor; Head Weight 261.0 "C" Dimension 1.076; Basic VCOG . ins.style.display = 'block'; MacGregor Ratings & Specs Head Ratings by Maltby Experts at The GolfWorks View All | View By Brand. Their wedges look very good. All Rights Reserved. Or for the DIYer. 4 Wood couldn't find my M75 4 Wood, My M85 Orig 4 wood is 41.5 inches long. | audioreview.com. And only offering a 4-PW set is not a winner for me. As a matter of fact, I still have in my bag (and play) the original sand wedge. That's very helpful. The Ram looks more traditional blade like. Do you have info on iron lofts? have been a result of the swingweighting process when it started in the 1930s (in general). and 4i from my Muirfields, Muirfield 20ths, and MT Tourney Tour Forged (1980-1983), and the 4i, 7i and 9i from my VIPs (I don't use the PW. I'd have guessed a change to 1/4" increments. Some facts about the Tourney MT tours they come with Dynamic Gold shafts (quality) golf pride tour velvet grips (quality) and first rate fit and finish (I have played a lot of golf with them and they still look almost new they have held up way, way better than either of my previous 3 sets of clubs). var lo = new MutationObserver(window.ezaslEvent); He handed down them to me and played them until the woods could no longer be repaired (cracked hosels). Golf Digest's 2023 Hot List review of MacGregor MT-86 OS irons covers all the specs and features of one of the best players distance irons of the year. Irons - 5 iron 37" with 1/2" increments up and down the set. 423/4. var slotId = 'div-gpt-ad-swingyard_com-box-3-0_1'; 3 Wood 42 1/8th. The MT86 Pro will be included in MyGolfSpys players iron test while the larger MT86 OS will be in the players distance category. Stiff shafts. Im unashamed and happy to be selling a lot of packaged sets. Is the construction similar? in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting, By If the average club golfer went to his pro to order a set of SS2 irons 1-9 and 11, did he always individually select lofts? MacGregor MT Pro Better Player Irons Review. *We may earn a commission when you buy through links on our site. $249.99 - $289.99. Thank you! Are the lengths for Wilson and PowerBilt the same as Mac or different? models 42 1/2") for the driver. I just so happened to find a lefthanded set that were nearly new. I've asked around and heard different views. In general (for standard men) for 1950s - Featuring a confidence-inspiring profile at address, the shallow face with a high-MOI design helps launch the ball into the air from any lie on the course. I played them for many years. After looking at the reviews, mostly of which are for the Tungsten model, I felt I had to stand up and defend my choice of clubs. Rollinson spent 15 years as chief designer for Odyssey, with innovations such as White Hot, Stroke Lab, Triple Track and the iconic 2-Ball to his credit. Then 4* increments thru the SW @ 56* I haven't either, but if it isn't right on the money it's probably very close. John is an aging, yet avid golfer, writer, 9-point-something handicapper living back home in New England after a 22-year exile in Minnesota. Those irons were revolutionary, featuring a shallow face, a relatively thick topline and a low center of gravity. MacGregors savior came by way of the Golden Bear. MT Tungsten. V-Foil Eye-O-Matic M42. It's always fun to see what people were playing 30 years ago. The writing was on the wall long before the MacGregor brand faded away. When you cant sell these irons for 50% of what you paid for them less than a year after release, youd better hope they do something other than trigger carefully calculated boomer nostalgia. Interesting 1/2" all the way to the 9 and then no change. $45 $51 11% OFF. I also busted 2 PGA Tommy Armour fairway woods back in the 70's by hitting them a little in the heels. We golfers are cynical creatures, after all. . One copper faced Colokroms and one set of Rec. in Golf Talk, Copyright 2004-2023 The Sand Trap .com But these margins I am talking about are very small. Wilon specs were: Re: I astamm8, December 11, 2011 in Hickory, Persimmon and Classic Clubs. Its up to something like 230,000 views., There in the bag pic.twitter.com/zVHTjYcbOr, Ian Woosnam (@IWoosnam) January 14, 2023. Rogue ST HL Triple Diamond T Fairway wood, Epic Speed Triple Diamond T 3+, Apex Single Diamond Driving Iron 22*, 38" 2 Ball Ten. Of course, Charley would be an authority on the abbreviation. Paste as plain text instead, var alS = 2002 % 1000; Got these clubs this spring. 11. quite simply the best clubs i have ever owned or hit. Jezz can be contacted via Twitter - @JezzEllwoodGolf, Driver: Ping G425 LST 10.5 (draw setting), Mitsubishi Tensei AV Orange 55 S shaft, 3 wood: Ping G425 Max 15 (set to flat +1), Mitsubishi Tensei AV Orange 65 S shaft, Hybrid: Ping G425 17, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Orange 80 S shaft, Irons 3-PW: Ping i525, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 R300 shafts, Wedges: Ping Glide 4.0 50 and 54, 12 bounce, True Temper Dynamic Gold 105 R300 shafts, Putter: Ping Fetch 2021 model, 33in shaft (set flat 2), Ball: Varies but mostly now TaylorMade Tour Response, Akshay Bhatia found the edge of the water twice during the third round at PGA National - and took drastic action each time, Tunshill Golf Club in the north-west of England has had two of its greens damaged by off-road bikers, The 47-year-old has explained the abuse he received after moving to LIV Golf led to a period of overeating. [/quote] "url": "https://swingyard.com/wp-content/uploads/Logo-1.svg" If the average club golfer went to his pro to order a set of SS2 irons 1-9 and 11, did he always individually select lofts? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Millingtons company, Golf Brands, Inc., purchased the Ram, Zebra and Teardrop names from DICKS in 2019 and bought MacGregor in 2020. Then 4* increments thru the SW @ 56*. but for $150 bucks its worth a try. ins.className = 'adsbygoogle ezasloaded'; [quote name='astamm8' timestamp='1323797389' post='3933387'] Thanks PKMillerJr! CHARLEY PENNA. big companies. If the average club golfer went to his pro to order a set of SS2 irons 1-9 and 11, did he always individually select lofts? These specs were PowerBilts for sure (maybe with the exception of the SW). published June 01, 2010. [quote name='robert horneman' timestamp='1323699412' post='3927411'] Paired with the correct shaft. Bath Many of the Macs from the 60's and early 70's are less than $100, and the remakes from the late 70's and 80's are often less than $50 unless absolutely mint. "https://www.linkedin.com/in/swingyard/", This means that the clubs will affect 75.25% of your performance. Are you in the market for a new driver? Copyright 2023. I realize that's true, but was there not a "standard." Charley, var ffid = 2; Powerbilt specs were: Its a nod to the heritage, says Millington. AT2W FOR 1961 I was without irons for a few weeks while awaiting the arrival of my new Mizunos. I dont know what model mine were, but I was amazed to see the look of the new club is quite similar. MacGregor MT-86 Pro Irons (4-PW) The original MT irons were iconic, brand-defining irons that put MacGregor on the map, and they were simply beautiful. var lo = new MutationObserver(window.ezaslEvent); An expensive venture, but a true passion, Jack sold MacGregor to Amer Group. And say what you will about Golf Digests Hot List but the new MacGregors did earn a silver this year without Millington spending a dime on ads. Young players today like challenge of trying to hit the MT's 2 iron. [quote name='Bella Woods' timestamp='1323732044' post='3929945'] I will have to pull my books and look. Neither irons topline qualifies as a butter knife, however. He was a gentleman to work with and was first class in everything he did., Millingtons golf background is in retail and in golf course management. I dont see ever parting with them. Both irons are hollow-bodied with a proprietary polymer filling for sound and feel. 1-17, 2-20, 3-24, 4-28, 5-32, 6-36, 7-40, 8-44, 9-48, PW-52. I would like to know the club specifications (e.g. I shouldnt have been surprised, I guess. The new MacGregor MT86 irons are a throwback to the brand's Golden Age. MacGregor Golf DX Carbon Steel Iron Set, Mens Right Hand, 4-PW. The main feature of this set of irons is the Powersole design which is a wide sole that is the same thickness throughout the set. 14. In 1910, MacGregor became a big player in clubmaking, while being the largest shoe last maker. They got passed down to me, then to my brothers (one of whom lost the 9 iron). Reliance Oversize. 163961. Perhaps, the best feature of this set is how easy it is to hit the long irons. Early next year MacGregor will issue 1.000. Heads are the same. When balata went away, those guys went in the closet---. 2-9. MacGregor Tourney MT Irons DESCRIPTION Made from 304 stainless steel. MacGregor 2014 Tourney 4-PW, GW Iron Set with Steel Shafts. Youve got to do something good with it.. I PRESUME U ARE NOT SERIOUS ABOUT LOFT. Shindig, July 18, 2017 Thats embarrassing to think how much that club has depreciated. All rights reserved. Now, if the club has cracks, a loose insert, the wood is proud around the insert, loose whipping, or the finish is gone, I wouldn't hit it with any ball unless I didn't care about it. please don't kill the line GolfsmithPLEASE!!!!!! 1-17* Just bought these clubs, and I couldn`t have done a better deal. Hoping someone can help me out. Im very lucky to have a great relationship with Ian Woosnam, says Millington of the Welshman, former world No. The clubs are just beautiful. [quote name='astamm8' timestamp='1323739872' post='3930691'] My local dealer here in Norway had a set laying around, and wanted me to try it. "@type": "ImageObject", Learn how your comment data is processed. have been a result of the swingweighting process when it started in the 1930s (in general). Golfsmith, for a decade, tried to make the business model work, but ultimately failed and filed for bankruptcy. Its easy to say no to that question. Upload or insert images from URL. "name": "Swing Yard", Cant wait to hit them! 2 wood - 13 degree - 42 3/4" And from 1992 until 2020, he earned a reputation as one of the industrys most influential club designers at Callaway. Deep cavities, wide soles and a relatively thick top line inspire confidence. Did I mention I LOVE THEM?? They have a Tour-ready design with a player's preferred, versatile look at address. This wide sole ensures a. Here are the specs: 1 "We don't stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game." Posted I use this website to research iron characteristics: http://ralphmaltby.com/mpf/macgregor/ M685 #6 Year 2006 Brand MacGregor Head Weight 255g "C" Dimension 1.150 Basic VCOG 0.894 Moment of Inertia (MOI) 13.4102 Heres how it works. Oddly, I still play a set of MacGregor PCB Tour irons. Its high-tensile strength means it can be made very thin while staying highly flexible. I dont recall the big box stores carrying McGregors and certainly not going to do it at Dicks or online. Great clubs at an unbeatable price. Missing greens and losing distance? The information you continue to provide us here as well as other sections of the forum are invalueable and very much appreciated. JNP Forged in USA 1990-92. Driver 43 Inches MT86 irons should be killer. thr pencil notes are tp's roadbikereview.com | MS300 is a high-grade maraging steel often used in metalwoods. The beginning of the end was when Jack Nicklaus got into golf course design. Clubs made during this time, such as the MT irons and Eye-O-Matic woods have tech that is still used in clubs today. Driver: PING 410 Plus 9 degrees, Alta CB55 SFairway: Callaway Rogue 3W PX Even Flow Blue 6.0; Hybrid: Titleist 818H1 21* PX Even Flow Blue 6.0;Irons: Titleist 718 AP1 5-W2(53*) Shafts-TT AMT Red S300;WedgesVokey SM856-10DPutter: Scotty Cameron 2016 Newport 2.5Ball:Titleist AVX or 2021 ProV1. Is it only cosmetic difference? Wasn't there a standard that was common and it was more of a special order to get away from that? Thanks for the input! For many years, MacGregor was unable to keep up with the innovation and marketing seen by Titleist, Callaway, and TaylorMade. Im not against the company and I hope the clubs perform well but my senses tell me that its going to be a massive challenge getting this company very far off the ground. Pat. I''ve had these for about two years now and bought them new then by luck for what they go for now if you can find them. My swing is decent but not perfect. [/quote] Fred Tip Dia. His knowledge and experience were fantastic, says Millington. I play a laminated maple 4 wood (Ram Investor II) that has been in my bag for 20 years-and in my grandfathers bag for probably about 20 years before that-and I have had no issues with modern balls (range balls or otherwise). STATIC LOFT AND PLAYING LOFT ARE OFTEN VERY DIFFERENT. For the armchair cynic, the new MacGregor seems like just another nostalgia grab offering nothing of consequence. Back to Irons Specifications | Back to Main Page. Yeah, I know. Great clubs off the shelf, and world class iron set with few mods. He glanced at the nearly 20-year-old Hogan Apex FTX irons in my bag and nonchalantly remarked, Oh, I designed those. My jaw dropped. Since sets during this period did not include a pitching wedge, to my knowledge MacGregor "DS" wedge is short for either Dual Service or Double Service, for pitching and sand wedge. Probably late 50s Driver: Titleist 910 D-3; 9.5* Diamana Kai'li3-Wood: Titleist 910F; 15* Diamana Kai'liHybrids: Titleist 910H 19* and 21* Diamana Kai'liIrons: Titleist 695cb 5-PwWedges: Scratch 51-11 TNC grind, Vokey SM-5's; 56-14 F grind and60-11 K grindPutter: Scotty CameronKombi SBall: ProV1. Started 44 minutes ago, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. My confidence level soared just like the ball did of the 9 iron. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, By In 1910, MacGregor became a big player in clubmaking, while being the largest shoe last maker. You know - speaking of the 1/2" increment progressive length change in iron clubs - I think this may BRASSIE. Do you have info on iron lofts? The Great Depression forced MacGregor near bankruptcy, and was forced to sell to Goldsmith. For all intents and purposes, those four brands were indeed dead parrots. I believe that the first VIP's come on to the marketwas in about 1968 after Jack Nicklaus was signed by MacGregor and had a few wins under his belt. Irons - 5 iron 37" with 1/2" increments up and down the set. 2- 38 1/2, 3- 38, 4- 37.5, 5- 37, 6- 36.5, 7- 36, 8- 35 3/4, 9- 35 1/2, 11- 35, DS - 35. (nearly as soft as forged carbon) the MT offers similar feel and response to McGregor's handcrafted forged irons. ins.style.width = '100%'; My first set of full irons were MacGregor MCX irons purchased in 1982,felt good in my hands but I couldnt hit them very well, a lot of Army golf. About the only difference was the M75's probably came original with T. T. V Chrome shafts and the M85's. 2 ; PowerBilt specs were PowerBilts for sure ( maybe with the new ones only... 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