Did this on the intake side. designates changes to this revision Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. 130f11 three fault codes are Any help would be appreciated I reside in Alberta as well. Table 2 - Engine N20 and N26 Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) I12 2.53.0 / I001-14-07-500 or higher Fault codes Model ISTA/P version / Target Integration Level All (see attachment) except faults 2D55 or 131501 E84, E89 2.53.0 / E89X-14-07-500 or higher F10 2.53.2 / F010-14-07-503 or higher F15 . I am troubleshooting an issue with it already for weeks now and unfortunately I was not able to find the root cause yet. I learned that if you touch the neg and positive battery cable together while the battery is disconnected it clears the light. I hate to take it to the junk yard. The first start up gave many more codes but I have cleared the fault codes several times and these two appear along with the consequence fault code of 120408 Charge pressure control off. and After replacing the timing chain in my N20 (2012 528i), it repeatably gives the fault codes 131401 and 131501 for VANOS cold start not controllable for the exhaust and intake cams. Think I'll avoid this. Thats important to know for later. Is there possible timing not to be correct on the intake vanos unit?! Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. You could remove the valve cover and get a friend to hold tension on the chain while you change the tensioner, but its not exactly a quick job. 130308 It idles fine and sounds much better than before. 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. 2D57 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached But thats not what happened. Looked at my timing chain and there seems to be some play in the chain. Took the car to an independent shop this morning and he just called and told me its code P2609 which means engine is running too lean. 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. The head mechanics at BMW Santa Monica have no idea either. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached No one knows what this CDA904 code means. Thanks. Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? I assume the tensioner is operated by oil pressure and its normal to feel some slack when the engine is not running? 130304 The 7 years/70000 miles extended limited warranty follows the VIN, so if the 2015 X3 is on the list, the N20/N26 engine will be covered. repairs to the engine valve train assembly. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. I havent been sleeping well. I tried to reset vanos with no success. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. Cleaned spark plugs and as the mileage was 65000 so I changed the timing chain with a TOOL also. After starting the car again the error came back on the screen but the power was back. Tried to read live camshaft sensors read ista says that currenty no data is sent from them to DME. 2D5B VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached Hello there, loving your info. Had mechanic put on Autel code reader diagnostics and got 10 or so codes relating to things such as the dinamic stability control, fuel pump. Did you hear anything like this before? Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. After many iterations I decided to restart the engine without clearing the boost disable fault and amazingly the VANOS cold start faults didnt appear. Id rather not pay more money. Specific eligible repairs may also be covered by the terms of the Federal, State or BMW Emissions Or anything else you have come across? Thank you in advance. Reduced power" warning, 745i 2002 - Engine Malfunction - reduced power, If this is your first visit, be sure to 130304 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. Look into loose connectors. DME. Im in california and Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25). When the VANOS units were removed there was no visible trash. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached The only odd result is that the desired angles of 0 and 0.6 had actual angles that were off by ~8 degrees. Thank you. The last oil change was two years ago but only 2200 miles were driven. I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. E84 and E89: Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. Neither the VANOS units nor the solenoids have been replaced. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. F25 As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. Code 131401 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS exhaust cold start not controllable, Your problem could be a programming issue or it could could both vanos units as per sib bulletin 12 14 12, Hello, I replaced the oil filter, inspected the oil filter basket and the green O ring at the bottom. I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Thank You very much for the reply !! One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . Emissions Warranty coverage that applies. bimmerfest.com is not in any way affiliated with Bayerische Motoren Werke AG. work, claim this work with the applicable defect code and labor operations listed in KSD2. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. 131401 vanos exhaust cold start not controllable N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: F10 They also included a video from the technician. Any comments/tips on both, car only has 49k miles. Andrea, I just found your blog looking for answers for my used/ new to me 2013 328i with N20 engine. I have checked timing multiple times, I found this article online and this is what Im thinking right now!! Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. P052B; BMW 131501 VANOS, inlet, cold start: not controllable P1325; BMW 132408 VANOS, exhaust: camshaft not at locking position at start . Code 131501 returned. 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? The boost control fault is caused by the vanos fault,,,you need to check into the the vanos faults to see whats going on. They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. The process of deleting the faults and restarting the car was performed many times. Apr 14, 2022 BMW F30 328i 2013 N20 engine "Drivetrain malfunction etc" comes on occasionally. Sorry there are no replacement bolts for the N20 vanes unit that I know of,,,,,yes they are aluminum,,,the N20 and N26 vanes unit are not common to break not like the older one on N51 and N52, No, no I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. Refer to KSD2 for the corresponding flat rate unit (FRU) allowance. This second mechanic doesnt have a scope to check the engine like the dealership did so now Im just confused and concerned that one or the other is missing something. When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. The BMW Certified Pre-Owned Limited Warranty applies to BMW CPO vehicles that are still Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get covered on this timing chain problem? Your email address will not be published. diagnosis system checking faults) also it has a start stall initially. 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed Is there a way to test this? PROCEDURE Just need to clear the check engine light. N20 vanos unit broken Posted on April 6, 2016 by bmwtechnician Ok here's another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? Required fields are marked *. 131808 Intermittent Exhaust variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) cost start position not reached. So I thing exhaust vanos is not working, or not working correctlycan I get in touch with you? Thanks for this. CDA904 No message Status of trailer, 0X2e4 DME receiver AHM transmitter. This website is not affiliated with BMW AG in any way, and should not be confused with the websites of BMW AG, BMW M GmbH. The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). Hello again, hope you having great day!! Yes you need to buy the camshaft locking tools,,,,the timing will slip,,,,you need a t-stat also,,,,the charge pressure fault may be due to the vanos unit,,,,the trailer issue is a random fault,,,,hope this helps. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 I thinks it just some random fault that comes up. Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. The engine sounds exactly the same as the first time it started after the timing chain installation. Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. 131908-VANOS inlet: cold start, Position not reached. The N20 is a 2.0L inline-4 single turbo engine that replaced the naturally aspirated 3.0L N52/N53. Looks all good. cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. charger. Thanks for any input. Seems like this is on the list. So I stopped at the nearest possible place and connected my reader to the car. Im not really sure its my 2012 BMW 320i (F30) probably produced from 05/2012 affected by this or not as its did not show in the list. Engine With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. Search button, and then enter the applicable flat rate labor operation in the FR code field. The problem could be caused by the fuel destroying the plastic guide. It has the N26 engine, factory warranty has expired. i took it to a euro car guy that i know he flashed the transmission and that solved the problem, did you get it sorted I, having the same faults. Should I proactively replace the timing chain tensioner, part number 11318685091 (replaces part number 11317567680)? Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? Hello there. hi, It appears to be a relatively simple, .5 hr swap. Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. It started during a hot day waiting at a traffic light. (with CAS) I bought a BMW F20 118i with N13 1.6 engine. Please help! Its hard to say what the problem is with out hearing and driving the car,,,,I dont think the noise is timing chain because that makes a whining noise,,,the only leak could be a exhaust leak but you said the steering also shakes,,,have you had the tires and rims checked make sure rims are not bent,,,also check the rear transmission mount make sure they are not cracked or broken,,,also check the drive belt tensioner could be a problem. I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. Two questions: Should I be concerned about the timing chain/guides issue in her vehicle? i am getting the following error codes on my 2013 BMW X3 (107k miles): The VANOS solenoids were removed/reinstalled several times to check the timing and one time to test the solenoids electrically. I would like the tackle the Vanos issue first and go from there. This seems correct, but I'm looking to avoid removing the valve cover. 2D56 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached Car history: before selling the car last owner took it to BMW, changed oil and filters, rear tires and spark plugs. 3. Do not replace any parts. Four months later I got a drive train malfunction that turned on then went away after a day. Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. Note that the desired angle was constant. Got it replaced for half of the price in warranty, consider also the timing chain replace if needed. and if necessary, also Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. . Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. What about the rest? 108f01 Ive search, alot of people have it problem but no solution.It dont like bmw :). N20 cylinder block is made of aluminum with two balance shafts and steel-plated cylinders. Did they use a different timing chain guide before 06/2012 ? 2: 12A701 Catalytic converter downstream oxygen sensor, electrical fault: circuit short to battery (+) Ok heres another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. What could be the problem? 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. I appreciate your help. 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. Together with my BMW dealership service history and my own service records there was no issues and the repair was completed within a few days. Warranty. Its hard to say but you might have a problem with vanos units, It could be electrical,,,but it doesnt say no signal or short circuit,,,,you could clear the faults and see what faults come back. 131501 vanos inlet cold start not controllable and 120408 boost pressure control cut off pressure rise blocked 2011 x3. 131501-VANOS inlet, cold start not consolable. Its a shame to have to scrap the car. Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. The tensioner sometime start to malfunctioning due to lack of motor oil (it is actioned by the oil pressure). Cost for the strap $7.49. FM pistons with negative bias of piston ring are also installed in this motor. My service guy called and told me to sell the car immediately because oil wasnt circulating through the engine and eventually it would seize. December 2013 What can be the issue, they have fixed it twice already, I dont know what the automatic calibration means on a sulve.,,,on this P3195 code that isnt a factory code so I dont know what it means,,,you said BMW fixed the radiator what did they do to the radiator,,,,did they replace it,,,,you could have a t-stat issue causing a temperature problem with the radiator,,,or a water pump issue,,,,I need BMW codes,,, not P codes. Im sorry,,,and I hate how BMW has handled the whole problem with the N20-N26 engine and timing chain issue,,,I understand your frustration with BMW and how they didnt take care of this known problem. 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